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Time to update your email address book
sed -i 's/gregkh@suse.de/gregkh@linuxfoundation.org/g' .addressbook
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Stable kernel release candidates
I thought it would be easier to do a round of stable kernel releases in
the middle of the larger kernel merge window, to prevent the next round
from being so big (given that there are a lot of patches usually
applying during the -rc1 merge window cycle).
So, I've now done:
Please go test and let me know if there are any problems with any of
these kernels. If I've missed any patches that you feel should be in
them, also please let me know.
Note, this is most likely going to be the LAST 3.1.y kernel
release, so please move off to the 3.2 kernel at this point in time.
Maintaining so many different kernel branches all at once is not
trivial, and I want to minimize it if at all possible.
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Stable kernel tree status, January 9, 2012
As 3.2 is now out, here's a note as to the current status of the
different stable/longterm kernel trees.
First off, please everyone remember to mark any patch that you want to
have applied to the stable kernel trees with a simple:
Cc: stable <stable@vger.kernel.org>
marking in the Signed-off-by: area. Once the patch hits Linus's tree, I
will automatically be notified of it and it will be applied if possible.
If it does not applied, you will be notified of that.
Note that the address is stable@vger.kernel.org, not the older address
that used to be used before October of 2011.
At this time, all stable and longterm kernel trees are being maintained
in one big git tree, located at:
git.kernel.org:/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/stable/linux-stable.git
There are different branches for every different major kernel version.
Here's the different active kernel versions that I am maintaining at the moment:
- 3.2.y - this will be maintained until 3.3 comes out
- 3.1.y - there will be only one, maybe two, more releases of this tree
- 3.0.y - this is the new "longterm" kernel release, it will be
maintained for 2 years at the minimum by me.
- 2.6.32.y - this is the previous "longterm" kernel release. It is
approaching it's end-of-life, and I think I only have
another month or so doing releases of this. After I am
finished with it, it might be picked up by someone else, but
I'm not going to promise anything.
All other longterm kernels are being maintained in various forms
(usually quite sporadically, if at all), by other people, and I can not
speak for their lifetime at all, that is up to those individuals.
If anyone has any questions about any of this, please
let me know.
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Future of the -longterm kernel releases.
tl;dr;
- -stable kernel releases stay the same
- this proposal is how we pick the -longterm releases
- -longterm kernels will be picked every year, and maintained for 2 years before being dropped.
- the same Documentation/stablekernelrules.txt will apply for -longterm kernels, as before.
History:
2.6.16 became a "longterm" kernel because my day job (at SUSE) picked
the 2.6.16 kernel for its "enterprise" release and it made things a lot
easier for me to keep working at applying bugfixes and other stable
patches to it to make my job simpler (applying a known-good bunch of
patches in one stable update was easier than a set of smaller patches
that were only tested by a smaller group of people.)
Seeing that this worked well, a cabal of developers got together at a
few different Linux conferences and determined that based on their
future distro release cycles, we could all aim for standardizing on the
2.6.32 kernel, saving us all time and energy in the long run. We turned
around and planted the proper seeds within the different organizations
and low-and-behold, project managers figured that this was their idea
and sold it to the rest of the groups and made it happen. Right now all
of the major "enterprise" and "stable" distro releases are based on the
2.6.32 kernel, making this trial a huge success.
Last year, two different community members (Andi and Paul) asked me
if they could maintain the 2.6.34 and 2.6.35 kernels as -longterm kernel
releases as their companies needed this type of support. I agreed, and
they have done a great job at this.
Andi reports that the 2.6.35 kernel is being used by a number of
different distros, but they will be phased out as their support lifetime
expires. There are also a number of embedded users of the kernel as
well as some individual ones. So that -longterm kernel is having a lot
of benefit for a wide range of users.
Today:
Now that 2.6.32 is over a year and a half, and the enterprise distros
are off doing their thing with their multi-year upgrade cycles, there's
no real need from the distros for a new longterm kernel release. But it
turns out that the distros are not the only user of the kernel, other
groups and companies have been approaching me over the past year, asking
how they could pick the next longterm kernel, or what the process is in
determining this.
To keep this all out in the open, let's figure out what to do here.
Consumer devices have a 1-2 year lifespan, and want and need the
experience of the kernel community maintaining their "base" kernel for
them. There is no real "enterprise" embedded distro out there from what
I can see. montaVista and WindRiver have some offerings in this area, but
they are not that widely used and are usually more "deep embedded".
There's also talk that the CELF group and Linaro are wanting to do
something on a "longterm" basis, and are fishing around for how to
properly handle this with the community to share the workload. Android
also is another huge player here, upgrading their kernel every major
release, and they could use the support of a longterm kernel as well.
Proposal:
Here's a first cut at a proposal, let me know if you like it, hate it,
would work for you and your company, or not at all:
- a new -longterm kernel is picked every year.
- a -longterm kernel is maintained for 2 years and then dropped.
- -stable kernels keep the same schedule that they have been (dropping
the last one after a new release happens.) These releases are best
for products that require new hardware updates (desktop distros,
community distros, fast-moving embedded distros (like Yocto)).
- the normal -stable rules apply to these -longterm kernels as described
in Documentation/stablekernelrules.txt
This means that there are 2 -longterm kernels being maintained at the
same time, and one -stable kernel. I'm volunteering to do this work, as
it's pretty much what I'm doing today anyway, and I have all of the
scripts and workflow down.
Public Notifications:
The current kernel.org site doesn't properly show what is and is not
being maintained as a -stable and -longterm kernel. I have a proposal
for how to fix this involving 'git notes', I just need to sit down and
do the work with the kernel.org admins to get this running properly.
Thoughts?
Feel free to comment on the google+ thread about this, or on the lkml thread.
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How to piss off a Linux kernel subsystem maintainer - part 6
Sixth in a long series of complaints... See part 1 and
part 2 and part 3 and part 4 and part 5 for previous atrocities.
There's nothing like waking up and receiving in your inbox, a few scant
hours after the merge window has opened up again, a plea for why
you haven't already reviewed and applied all 117+ patches that the
author sent to you a few weeks ago, back when they well knew you could
not apply them due to the merge window being closed.
Oh, and to top it all off, as the message was sent in HTML format, it
didn't hit the mailing lists, I was the only one who received it.
Because of that, I figured it was better if I just ignored it as well,
just like the vger.kernel.org filters did.
I think I'll just ignore this whole set of patches until after
LinuxCon Vancouver which should give me enough time to cool off.
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